Mr. Khatab
I think in order to answer to the views of those who consider Ibn Taymyah Nasebi as their own thinker and thoughtful supporter and as their Shakh Al-Islam while he is the opponent and enemy of Ahl Al-Bayt (peace be upon them) is sufficient to send some of his own comments in order to reject his own remarks and you can realize what the truth is
Your Shakh says that;
When your great figure and Shakh has considered the revelation of this chapter pertaining to the dignity of Ahl Al-Bayt as a false claim and in spite of the whole proofs and documents of your own Sunnite authentic sources that we presented some of their small portions from your own books which have been mentioned in the main file then he considered all of them as false claims in non-scientific and logical manner and rejected and denied all of them in general and more importantly, he claimed that this narration and point have not been mentioned in the authentic books by no narrators and he paid no little attention to all of the sayings pertaining to this verse which has been revealed in Medina (the whole or a partial section of this verse which is concerned with donation to a poor, orphan, and a captive man and with his all grudge and self-pride has claimed that this verse has been revealed in Mecca and in this respect at first you have to make up your mind pertaining to your own books and if what have been mentioned by the others except your Shakh Al-Islam are right and true why has your Shakh rejected that narration and numerous similar narrations pertaining to the virtues of Ahl Al-Bayt as well as he considered these narrations as false claims and says that; these narrations have not been mentioned in any authentic books? and with this respect the real extent of the authenticity and dignity of Mr. Shakh Al-Islam Ibn Taymyah who is their scientific support and backing of the whole Vahabiah will become evident
And if your Shakh Al-Islam is right and if he considers all of the narrations which have been mentioned pertaining to the occasion of the revelation of this chapter as well as the other virtues of Ahl Al-Bayt (peace be upon them) in the Sunnite books as lie and false claims then you have to make up your mind regarding those Sunnite books and with this respect the real extent of authenticity and accuracy of these books will be evident and if so then the remainder of the statements which are available in that book will not be better than that
O really have you ever asked yourself that what the problem is and if these books had considered untruly and with no proof and document that the occasion of the chapter revelation was related to Abu Bakr, Omar, Ayeshah and Hafsah or even some of the men from Bani Omayyah’s household then once again your Mr. Shakh make huge efforts to investigate and probe this case and reject all of them via false accusation and untrue claims that no one has mentioned this issue at all?
In this point this hallowed verse of the holy book come to mind thoroughly that ‘’ there is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease’’ what is our fault that GOD has put a lock on his heart and the men like him who are unable to see the shining brightness of the pure and sacred Ahl Al-Bayt (peace be upon them)
Now Mr. Khatab as we have said to you before do not tie up your own fate to the fate of those who we really know them and if you really intend to do researches unto the path of truth then make some more efforts and refer to some books and to study not only the baseless and meaningless remarks of Ibn Taymyah pertaining to this case but the whole false claims of that guy and you will find out who is rightful and truthful
And if you be guided to the right path then share with us this great and huge reward and blessing that His Holiness stated that; whoever revive a man then indeed he has revived all the mankind
«نزول سورة هل أتى فيهم» ، كذب. إن هذا الحديث من الكذب الموضوع باتفاق أهل المعرفة بالحديث ، الذين هم أئمة هذا الشأن وحكامه ،... ولهذا لم يرو هذا الحديث في شئ من الكتب التي يرجع إليها في النقل ،... ولا رواه المصنفون في الفضائل ... إن الدلائل على كذب هذا كثيرة ، منها : إن عليا إنما تزوج فاطمة بالمدينة . . . وسورة هل أتى مكية باتفاق أهل التفسير والنقل ، لم يقل أحد منهم إنها مدنية " .
-Menhaj Al-Sonat, 7/ 177, 179
Now let us address your own questions
The first part of this opinion
I am asking you to present the accurate proof of this narration and it does not necessarily be regarded as an authentic narration since Thalabi and others like him quoted that and this narration is a false one due to the other proofs and reasons which evident in that narration itself and this narration is manipulated by a passerby and the narrators are certain about its falsehood and you has not also quoted from an authentic Mosnad or a valid book and there is no such a false claim in the book Khasaes Ali from Nasaei in spite of its authentic or weak narrations and also Abu Naim in the book Khasaes as well as in the book Jame of Tarmazi weak narrations have been quoted from the virtues and characteristics of Ali but it is really impossible to narrate such a false accusation and according to the opinions of the majority of the narrators this is a false saying
RESPONSE
At first, it would be better to take into account the standing and validity of Thalabi in the viewpoint of Sunnites that Ibn Taymyah overruns him in such a brainless manner and he attacks him as a result of mentioning the virtues of Ahl Al-Bayt (peace be upon them)
THE SHORT DESCRPTION OF THALABI FROM THE TONGUE OF ZAHABI IN THE BOOK SAYR ALAM AL-NABLA
إن الثعلبي - وهو أبو إسحاق أحمد بن محمد ، المتوفى سنة 427 - إمام كبير من أئمة التفسير واللغة ، وتفسيره من أشهر التفاسير عندهم : قال الذهبي : الثعلبي ، الإمام الحافظ العلامة ، شيخ التفسير ، أبو إسحاق أحمد بن محمد بن إبراهيم النيسابوري ، كان أحد أوعية العلم ، له كتاب التفسير الكبير وكتاب العرائس في قصص الأنبياء . قال السمعاني : يقال له : الثعلبي والثعالبي ، وهو لقب له لا نسب . حدث عن . . . وكان صادقا موثقا ، بصيرا بالعربية ، طويل الباع في الوعظ . حدث عنه : أبو الحسن الواحدي ، وجماعة . قال عبد الغافر بن إسماعيل : قال الأستاذ أبو القاسم القشيري : رأيت رب العزة في المنام وهو يخاطبني وأخاطبه ، فكان في أثناء ذلك أن قال الرب جل اسمه : أقبل الرجل الصالح ، فالتفت فإذا أحمد الثعلبي مقبل . توفي الثعلبي في المحرم سنة 427 ( 1 ) .
-(1) Seir Alam Al-Nobala, 17/ 437
In what has been said above in the comment of Zahabi there was nothing except admission, praise and honor
And also Ibn Kholakan says pertaining to Salabi that
المفسر المشهور ، كان أوحد زمانه في علم التفسير ، وصنف التفسير الكبير الذي فاق غيره من التفاسير . . . وذكره عبد الغافر بن إسماعيل الفارسي في كتاب سياق تاريخ نيسابور وأثنى عليه وقال : هو وقال : هو صحيح النقل موثوق به . . . ( 2 ) .
Sabaki says pertaining to Thalabi that;
كان أوحد زمانه في علم القرآن ، وله كتاب العرائس في قصص الأنبياء عليهم السلام ( 3 ) .
Osnavi says pertaining to Thalabi that
كان أوحد أهل زمانه في علم القرآن ، حافظا للغة ، بارعا في العربية ، واعظا ، موثقا ( 3 ) .
And also you can refer to these books pertaining to Thalabi in order to see the praise, respect and honor of the Sunnite scholars regarding him and now how dare is Ibn Taymyah to call into question Thalabi only due to the quotation of a virtue of Ahl Al-Bayt (peace be upon them)
-Al-Vafi bel Vafiyat, 7/ 307. Marat Al-Janan, 3/ 46. Baghiyat Al-Voa: 154. Al-Mokhtasar Fi Akhbar Al-Bashar, 2/ 162. Al-Abar, 3/ 172
But regarding this remark of Ibn Taymyah who regarded this narration as a false claim and a forge document then we have to say in addition to the comments have been mentioned above and if Ibn Taymyah or his advocates consider all of these Sunnite authentic books which have been mentioned below pertaining to the occasion of the revelation of the chapter Dahr (Insan) which is one of the virtues of Ahl Al-Bayt (peace be upon them) as a false claim and forge documents then you can even guess from these little things that and when your own books contain such a big lie pertaining to one of the certain issues namely the virtue of the commander of the faithful and Her Holiness Fatima Zahra and Hasanayin (peace be upon them) then you have to take refuge to Allah regarding your own thoes books which intended to manipulate and fabricate the narrations pertaining to the virtues of Bani Omayyah who has been called as ‘’the cursed tree’’ in the holy Qur’an. When regarding the precedence of Ahl Al-Bayt of the holy prophet of GOD (peace and bless of GOD be upon him and his progeny) which the holy Qur’an and the tradition have emphasized upon that your book mention false claims in such vast extent then we have to see what have done pertaining to Bani Omayyah who has n o virtue at all? Anyway it is our responsibility to make a list of your own sources but it is up to you to consider which one of these men as liars or false claimers, Ibn Taymayh who you called him as Shakh Al-Islam or the writers of the below books. it is your own choice to be make
-Tafsir Maghatel Ben Soleiman, Maghatel Ben Soleiman (died in 150 hejira), v 3 p 428. Shavahed Al-Tanzil, Hakem Hasakani (5th century), v 2 p 399. Tafsir Al-Thalabi, Thalabi (died in 427 hejira), v 10 p 96. Tafsir Al-Samarghandi, Abu Al-Leith Samarghandi (died in 383 hejira), v 3 p 504. Tafsir Al-Samaani, Samaani (died in 489 hejira), v 6 p 116. Al-Kashef An Haghaegh Al-Tanzil va Oyun Al-Aghavil, Jarollah Zamakhshari (died in 538 hejira), v 4 p 197. Tafsir Al-Razi, Fakhr Razi (died in 606 hejira), v 30 p 244. Tafsir Al-Ghartabi, Ghartabi (died in 671 hejira), v 19 p 131. Tafsir Al-Beizavi (died in 682 hejira), v 5 p 428. Tafsir Alusi, Alusi (died in 1270 hejira), v 29 p 157.
THE SECOND PART OF THE OPINION
The chapter Insan (Hal Ata) has been revealed in Mecca according to the view of the most commentators and there were neither Hasan nor Hossein Mecca to become ill and they dedicate by a vow for them thus the falsity of this narration becomes evident
RESPONSE
O Yes, if as Ibn Taymyah had said it turns to be true but we are so sorry that it is not so since no only such an event has not even occurred but also as we have said most of the commentators believe that the whole chapter has been revealed in Medina and some of them believe that the whole verse except a few verses has been revealed in Medina as well and some of the commentators believe that the whole chapter revealed in Mecca therefore such a claim of Ibn Taymayh is not accurate at all
قال مجاهد و قتادة: مدنية. و قال الحسن و عكرمة: مدنية إلا آية واحدة فإنها مكية و هي: وَ لا تُطِعْ مِنْهُمْ آثِماً أَوْ كَفُوراً. و قيل:
مدنية إلا من قوله: فَاصْبِرْ لِحُكْمِ رَبِّكَ إلخ، فإنه مكي، حكاه الماوردي. و مناسبتها لما قبلها ظاهرة جدّا لا تحتاج إلى شرح.
-Al-Bahr Al-Mohit Fi Tafsir, Abu Hayan Andolesi (died in 745 hejira), v 10 p 359
سورة الإنسان مدنية، عدد آياتها 31 آية
-Ershad Al-Azhan Ela Tafsir Al-Quran, p 584
سورة الدّهر
[مدنيّة، و هي إحدى و ثلاثون آية]
It has been mentioned in the interpretation of Baqavi that; it has been revealed in Medina and the number of the verses is 31.
And it is worth-mentioning here that this Mr. Baqavi himself is the man who says in the book Menhaj Al-Sonah that; his interpretation is accurate and authentic and there is no false or fabricated narration in that book
-Al-Asefi Fi Tafsir Al-Quran, v 2 p 1384
(وكذا في غيره من التفاسير ، كالآلوسي ، قال : قال مجاهد وقتادة مدنية كلها . وقال الحسن وعكرمة والكلبي : مدنية إلا آية واحدة فمكية وهي ( ولا تطع منهم آثما أو كفورا ) ( 2 ) . وقيل : مدنية إلا من قوله تعالى : ( فاصبر لحكم ربك . . . ) ( 3 ) ( 4 ) . بل كونها مدنية هو قول الجمهور ، كما قال الإمام القاضي الشوكاني ( 5 ) . . . ونسبه إلى الجمهور أيضا القرطبي في تفسيره ( 6 ) والإمام ابن عادل ، فيما نقله عنه الآلوسي وقال : وعليه الشيعة ( 7 ) .
-(1) Maalem Al-Tanzil, 5/ 495. (2) Al-Dahr Surah 76: 24. (3) Al-Dahr Surah 76: 24. (4) Ruh Al-Maani, 29/ 150. (5) Fath Al-Ghadir, 5/ 343. (6) Tafsir Al-Ghartabi, 19/ 118. (7) Ruh Al-Maani, 29/ 150
Then we have to say to Ibn Taymyah that; not only the falsity of this evident
Third; it has been proved in Sahihayn that the holy prophet of GOD (peace and bless of GOD be upon him and his progeny) has prevented to dedicate by a vow and His Holiness stated that it will not bring about any blessing rather than it helps mankind to abandon the stinginess and Allah the almighty did not admitted this action only He praised those who keep their own promises as it has been banned for Zahar and if someone committed Zahar then he has to make an atonement and the man who made the atonement has been praised (and as you can see the holy Qur’an deduction by vow is not a conditional ones but it is uncondition
THE THIRD PART OF THE OPINION
Third;
Third; it has been proved in Sahihayn that the holy prophet of GOD (peace and bless of GOD be upon him and his progeny) has prevented to dedicate by a vow and His Holiness stated that it will not bring about any blessing rather than it helps mankind to abandon the stinginess and Allah the almighty did not admitted this action only He praised those who keep their own promises as it has been banned for Zahar and if someone committed Zahar then he has to make an atonement and the man who made the atonement has been praised (and as you can see the holy Qur’an deduction by vow is not a conditional ones but it is unconditional)
RESPONSE
And pertaining to what have been mentioned in your Sahihayn and the Sunnite Muftis and scholars have employed in such a manner it is allup to the view and opinion of them but what is authentic here in the view of the Shiite scholars is the statement, saying and verification of the holy prophet of GOD (peace and bless of GOD be upon him and his progeny) as well as his pure and sacred Ahl Al-Bayt (peace be upon them) which regard as the sources of the religious laws and when the accuracy and validity of the above-mentioned narration has been proved in the view of our Faqih (religious jurist) and scholars than this kind of deduction by a vow is sufficient to be referred and considered accurate as the legitimate deduction by a vow and it will be a religious proof for us
THE FOURTH PART OF THE OPINION
Fourth;
The style of this narration and its words indicate that it has been manipulated by false claimers who were ignorant for saying such statement like (most of the Arabs visited them) while the majority of Arabs were not in Medina and the unbelievers Arabs have not also gone to see Hasanayn or like this statement that most of the Arabs said to Ali how is it better to dedicate a vow for your children while Ali has learned his own faith from the holy prophet of GOD (peace and bless of GOD be upon him and hid progeny) and not from Arabs and if it is their purpose that they ordered Ali to obey them then the answer is that the holy prophet of GOD himself (peace and bless of GOD be upon him and his progeny) was more merit than them to order Ali to do this act and it was not an order then Ali was not obliged to obey that
RESPONSE
Firstly; in the whole Sunnite sources that we have considered and concluded as well as we mentioned them in the main file there was no such an interpretation that all of the Arabs came and visited Hasanayin
Secondly; supposedly, if such an interpretation has been mentioned then it does not necessarily mean that all of the Arabs from every corners of the whole world came to the house of the commander of the faithful (peace be upon him) to see Hasanayin rather than if this sentence has been said to a child even he will realize that the people and the residents of that city and from its surroundings have came to see them and when they say that all of them then it has been mentioned to indicate exaggeration which implies in the great number, namely the great number of the people who came to see them
THE FIFTH PART OF THE OPINION
Fifth;
Fatima has not and servant called as Fazah and there was no servant named as Fazah in Medina at all and Fazah was just like Ibn Aqab that it has been said that he was the teacher of Hasanayin who has taught them the knowledge of the future events while the name of Ibn Aqab as well as such a story are lies which have been made by ignorant false claimers
And both Fazah and Ibn Aqab are false names and what has been narrated from Ali in Sahihayn is that; Fatima (may GOD be pleased with her) asked the holy prophet of GOD to grant her a servant then the holy prophet of GOD (peace and bless of GOD be upon him and his progeny) taught her some Tasbihs which are; Takibir (Allah is great) Tahmid (All praise is due to Allah) and Tasbih (Glory to GOD) and stated that these are more better to you than a servant
We are really so regretful for Ibn Taymyah and his Vahabi followers and adherents, now let see the answer to his religious doubt
The statement of Ibn Athir pertaining to Fazah
فضة النوبية ، جارية فاطمة الزهراء بنت رسول الله صلى الله عليه ] وآله [ وسلم : أخبرنا أبو موسى كتابة . . . فأورد الحديث بإسناده عن ابن عباس ( 1 ) .
The statement of Al-Hafez Ibn Hojr Asqalani pertaining to the rejection of relationship with Fazah
فضة النوبية ، جارية فاطمة الزهراء . . . أخرج أبو موسى في الذيل ، والثعلبي في تفسير سورة ( هل أتى ) ، من طريق عبد الله بن عبد الوهاب الخوارزمي ابن عم الأحنف . . . قال : وذكر ابن صخر في فوائده وابن بشكوال في كتاب المستغيثين من طريقه ، بسند له من طريق الحسين بن العلاء ، عن جعفر بن محمد بن علي بن الحسين بن علي ، عن أبيه ، عن علي : إن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم أخدم فاطمة ابنته جارية اسمها فضة النوبية ، وكانت تشاطرها الخدمة ، فعلمها رسول الله صلى الله عليه ] وآله [ وسلم دعاء تدعو به . . . ( 2 ) .
Of course as a result of this unawareness and illiteracy of Ibn Taymyah from their own highly authentic books of the narrators his statements and remarks are so ridiculous that most of the people have denied of concealed their own fellowship to Ibn Taymayh in order not to be ridiculed
THE SIXTH TO TENTH PARTS OF THE OPINION
Mr. Khatab
When up to this point the statement of Ibn Taymyah which contains numerous and considerable scientific problems has been addressed in the view of the reader and his false claims have been demonstrated then the rest of his claims is so baseless and worthless that it is better not to…
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THE RESEARCH INSTITUTE OF HIS HOLINESS IMAM OF THE AGE
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